So throw off. 00 6. deadbird8. the props are very tough but very inefficient. We'll be staying at one of the campgrounds on the wma. I see its been awhile since someone has posted in here, so I figure I'll wake this thread up. Here is my 2010 1748 Mike Kliebert Custom. 's recommend a 9x7 prop for the 27 HP Kohler LT. Willey’s templet is the correct one for performance. Re: 5hp go devil longtail. Location: Lake Jackson, TX. Mud skipper surface drive. Don’t get a prop worked and then cut the skeg because it changes the working rpms. Throttle cables are going to freeze in general. Location: Mandeville, LA. While picking up decoys idling around it sputters and loses power and wants to kill and when I try to get up and run she runs like garbage for a while. Couple things with the motor concern me. I'd say your speeds are pretty good for a 13hp thai kit. Last visit was: Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:10 pm: It is currently Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:10 pmYou can run royal purple, it's expensive, but there are others just as good for much cheaper. " Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:25 pm: nick2720. The best possibly being ProDrive's new. I have Gx620 on go devel frame. im pushing around a 14 foot riveted with a 23 gdlt. Prop pitch to carry a load and pitch for speed are mutually exclusive to a point. at least that's been my experience the last 2 years I've been there. 300 lb i verified my scale with olympic plate weight. A few of us, not many, plan to take ourselves on a Sparkleberry tour this Saturday morning. It is my first true hunting boat. I don’t mind jumping out in shallow. Speeds were taken with Navionics GPS app on my iPhone. 3-2. It appears that more and more Prodrive owners are making the swap to this engine and are hitting me up for information. Usually right at 2000# with me and few other items. Re: 22hp predatpr mods and top speeds. On my 1754 with 35gdsd i was getting 17 or 18 that was with it loaded with 4 guys 2 of which were bigger and 60 duck decoys and regular duck gear as well. So,i made a tank that went all the way across the boat form the bottom of the boat to the bottom of the saddle on the motor. I like the price and the weight of the 6. It would be nice to inspect and lube the valves / valve guides. Duck Run. Posts: 94. MMT Super Elite Member. Am not sure how to connect. Location: West Monroe, LA. Pinewood, South Carolina Hosts Alan Flores Caroline B Crater Packs Landing 2012 Sparkleberry Swamp Duck Run Hotties. has a seperate red wire lead attached on the side of key switch. Tools required: You will need a crescent wrench, some pliers and a screw driver. Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:45 pm Posts: 94 Re: Mud skipper surface drive. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. We got lucky one morning. Paint holds up well against scratches but if anything metallic dings against the boat, the paint chips easily. Props tested were the GT 2 blade, GT 3 blade, and MB Hammer. Location: Nederland Texas. Thats JMHO. This video and images were compiled from those taken during the 2012 Duck Run held annually out of Pack's. Just me, just sayin. Instead of considering the mini, look into the LA Special. I can load it with 3 good sized guys all 215+ pounds, 2 dogs, 5 dozen weighted keel mallards and 1 1/2 dozen floater geese, personal gear and everything else needed for a duck trip and still get on step pretty quick in shallow water and run 24-27 mph depending on. It really makes a little difference when paired with a worked prop but only after the skeg has been cut. The propeller tolerance should be checked. Speeds | Deep Water:almost the same as shallow, 1mph slower at times. Only since 1986 have estimates exceeded 30,000 ducks. The 40 is impressive! Just sold my 37 (stock with gutted exhaust) and upgraded to the 40. Went from 16 to 19 consistent by myself, With a hunt load and extra bodies 13 to 16 . you broke the pins that are pressed in to your clutch. With a CDI, advance timing key ($3-$5) but not more than a #4. It will be going in a 1436 flat bottom. (completes to ground). Completely empty, I'm running 37-38 on my 1848 custom crawfish skiff. 16. Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:33 am. No public land for duck commanders is what he says. The go devil 27hp is the motor I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on. Total Boat Load With Gear Etc: Light = myself 195lbs, 1 battery, 8 gal gas, misc gear in storage areas. Just know that has no association. Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:10 am Posts: 1872 Re: Big Blade vs Hammer on Mud Buddy 5000. 2mph, just me no load. Among the considerations are an 18x60 GD hull and a 18x56 GD hull. I always get stuck at station 4 for. 18x56 or 18x60 go devil with 35 GDSD. For a lot of years I fished outboards super shallow, it's my real passion I guess, but once I tried the surface drive them fishes have really had it bad. 5 HP Predator, cost $110 at my local Harbor Freight. They claimed 18-20 mph I could barely bump 13. Is anyone familiar with the River Run mud motors? the offer small MM's with a neutral clutch standard; and a reverse feature is available too. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are. Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:21 pm: Swamper01. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I547 using Tapatalk 2. If you are to pussy to do that pull one spark plug at a time if the engine dies it the other side. Speeds were taken with Navionics GPS app on my iPhone. Pro: able to run down smaller ditches Pro: performs very well in shallow water and grass Con: very tight quarters, make hunting more than 3 people a challenge. Posts: 4820. Location: Duck Hill & Starkville, MS Duck Blind question. With that said I cannot comment on how well a Vanguard likes 5 degrees F because it just does not get that cold here. It is a nice setup for me. i guarantee that you have at least 3 broke pins in the band part of your clutch. Working with Nick Peltier on a build- heads, cam, hex shaft and a tune on PD 40 EFI. 30$ with tax . My attempts to remove prop have so far been unsuccessful, and after talking with Go Devil decided to remove the shaft with the prop attached. What a wonderful day! Go to our website to sign up to mentor, support, or even open a chapter in your community. I take a bird, open the breast and remove the breast meat. All times are UTC [ DST] Who is. Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:16 am Posts: 250 Location: Sumter, SC Re: 1638 godevil. i just read where on a demo. consider replacing the bushings / seals - but on my old 20 year old GDLT. Mudbuddy 5000 efi question. Joined: Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:54 am. Posts: 3833. New Phowler Prowler Ext 1744 Test Results UPDATED w/36 PD!!! Okay, here is the hard data on the new Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744. 7 MPHRe: Gas pouring out of carb overflow?! FWIW, I have seen only a couple situations were an e-pump is really needed and that was when the stock pump was defective. You can put the ngk's in there, but no real need for them. My carb is getting to much fuel and floods. Two people, my dog, and a hunt load, I run 34-35. Re: Gatortail 25 hp subaru problems. _____ 1744 floating a 23 MBHD Stage 2 : Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:50 pm: Nateeendavie. With just me in the boat it will move pretty good ad another guy and all hunting gear and decoys and it will get you there just not that fast. But any paint job is only as good as the surface you're painting. I've had one of these motors - sold it to a friend who still has it. Holds 32 in deep water and ran 33 in shallow. Had a little condensation in the throat. Posts: 35. 1 in the wind protected shallower water. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Before the internet, the majority of the village idiots stayed in their villages. I can run 30. Re: Mud Motor vs. Balancing a surface drive prop is an excellent idea. 25hp longtail 14x42 17-20mph tops deep water. 2016 Sparkleberry Swamp Duck Run All credit goes to Mike Anderson for creating this video. save sum money and find a used skiff. oh yea, not to jack up your thread , but your loss is my gain. Location: st bernard louisiana. Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX Re: Do Mudbuddy props fit Gator-Tail1851 Prodigy HDR 5000 EFI. Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:10 pm: deadbird8. Some people were giving shit to a buddy of mine about how excel boats aren't that tough. . MMT Pro Member. With this said I need a real duck boat! I spend the majority of my time hunting shallow muddy bottomed lakes with some heavy vegetation. It was wild. im in central florida. Joined: Thu May 12, 2016 4:33 pm. Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:21 pm. Last visit was: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:45 am: It is currently Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:45 amrun it hard af or put it up. has a seperate red wire lead attached on the side of key switch. Mine is a Prodigy 1854 v rake, drop deck, 5086 aluminum. Pinewood, SC 29125 • Lowfalls 958 Low Falls Rd. Re: Boat Dr new 12. That helped alot with stability too. Video and Picture highlights from the Duck Run that took place in the Sparkleberry Swamp off of the Santee River in the summer of 2009. Re: 22hp predator starter issue. Posts: 37. Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La. The front storage is limited but it did fit 4 life jackets, throwable, and fire extinguisher. Last visit was: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:26 am: It is currently Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:26 amThis has been the most effective way of eliminating tiller torque for me. You can then check spark on each side and then start the motor. c. If you use a wrench or screwdriver to "jump" the post on the solenoid it starter should engage normally-if not likely solenoid problem. Check the shaft for play. There aren't many replacement parts out there. Posts: 50. Each time the motor bogged down and shut off about 80% of the way to the blind with about a 500 pound load (2 guys and gear). One wire will come from the tethered kill switch and the other will be a short section of wire about 4-5". The mod v front handles some ms river chop well and the boat felt safe. _____ 19x48 Rink/Aucoin Bateau w/35 GTR 20x60 Home-made skiff w/200 Merc: Sun Aug 30. Lots of runs through wide open water and bayous, but when the water is up, of course we run through the timber. On the longtail - only grease the U-joints a tad every 20 or 30 hours - but. I use a good synthetic oil, but you don't have to. catwalks w/bent trays. DUCK HEARSE. Wash ya boat GOOD !!!! Go to car wash and use engine cleaner (degreaser) Spray your boat with ALumabright. Re: 22 HP Predator Longtail to Surface Drive. JPG The only thing that is chipped now after 2 years is the floor and the bow where I hit and pushed stuff. Location: Tallahassee, Fl. So yes to your question. MMT 1000 Club. My carb is getting to much fuel and floods. While picking up decoys idling around it sputters and loses power and wants to kill and when I try to get up and run she runs like garbage for a while. Posts: 156. yall really need to be using relays to run a fuel pump. MMT Member. Re: lost Key. MMT Addict. MMT Pro Member. _________________. Speeds | Deep Water: 1. #101 - 1865 Dilworth Dr Suite #804 Kelowna, BC V1Y 9T1 [email protected]BC Ferries: At least they run - See 4,493 traveler reviews, 1,550 candid photos, and great deals for Sidney, Canada, at Tripadvisor. 2000 16x44 with a 2000 23hp longtail. Usually right at 2000# with me and few other items. I could never get that setup to work right with my 1542 mod v hull and had to constantly muscle it to the point of near. Re: 35 Hp vanguard upgrade help. . "There's nothing a duck hunter hates more than another duck hunter. Re: Not getting spark. 3 coats, waiting till its completely dry between coats. MMT Pro Member. You can apply GatorGlide over factory paint jobs with the same prep, sand and wipe with acetone. When I first applied the stuff, it was super slick and after about 2 months it wasn't near as slippery on the trailer but still performed. My last sd and current longtail if I take off the greaser to flush the tube I get about a teaspoon of water and brass shaving from the bushings on the fest few pumps of the grease gunLocation: Slidell, LA. Built a hammer style puller out of all thread, but the shaft won't budge. The grease in the grease piston is leaking around the plunger within the piston, not a big deal, but it is annoying. to look into, and I live down here. I'd put the same motor on both, a 35 hp GDSD. I use the toro key because it covers the key area, but any Briggs key should work. a 20'x44'' skiff runs well with a 27kholer. They look pretty well engineered and built. Stuff looked nice, they had it cut out in patterns and fitted to a swim deck. Couple questions for the guys who have removed the foam from there Go Devil boats. I’m sending my 3 blade to be worked next week and we shall see how that runs. The run involves a lot of shallow river with heavy grass and mud banks; further on, the river becomes narrow with high banks , cluttered with logs and underwater brush, even logjams. I could never get that setup to work right with my 1542 mod v hull and had to constantly muscle it to the point of near. With this setup I am turning 3850 rpms consistently in the water. Wchauvin. tail winds, tail currents, shallow water, light load. Easy once you get used to it. Location: somewhere fishing. Location: SW Georgia. _____ 1648 gd hull flying in front of a stage 3 with fpr: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:53 am:Like most, I started with a Go Devil, the first on the block, and they make a good product but MB's bearing drive system was a definite improvement, I assume Backwater's is similar (oh yeah, Beavertail also was in the changes group). MMT 1000 Club. MMT Addict. Posts: 10388. I can run 30. Location: somewhere fishing. And copperhead's customer service is top notch. 7 MPHLast visit was: Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:51 pm: It is currently Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:51 pmLocation: Beaumont, Texas. Re: SURFACE DRIVES IN DEEP WATER. MMT Member. Posts: 27. You'll be running about 13 with the heavy load you are talking about. I have a 2000 Vanguard 36 on a Pro Drive Motor on a Pro Drive 17-48 console steer. shoot ducks in the face. nearest landings: • Packs: 9890 Packs Landing Rd. Posts: 574. 35+hp GDSD engine mods by George Merta 18x48 GDSD boat: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:00 amSpecial thanks to the ladies for their participation and we thank you especially for making one of the most beautiful places on Earth, a little bit more on t. I take a bird, open the breast and remove the breast meat. Not 70 hp like it says, but learned la. I went from a 14x42 to a 16x48,no regrets. This will tell u if it is excessive or not and may point u in the right direction of issue _____ 1754 GTR Xtreme CC w/ Purple. So you got more clearance then you do with a GTR. The 2 blade is for duck season in serious tough conditions as well as heavy loads. Add $500 for BPS crossover muffler. My buddy has a mini 23 on a rivited 1542 and was getting 17 mph empty. Cooler, wife and black dog of 82#. Joined: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:39 am. When they jump you can usually see a mark from where pushrod tried to run. Starter and solenoid Briggs 23hp Vanguard? My Briggs 23 Vanguard {380477-0065-E1} was giving me the old "solenoid click" when I turned the key and NOT spinning the starter at all. Re: lost Key. Re: !!!MudBuddy Issue!!! There could have been rust on a valve making it stick, adjuster come loose or other things. Touch both exhaust outlets where it comes out of the head. 3. These two wires should be connected on the killswitch directly across from each other. MMT Member. Vancouver Sun Archives 1912 - 2021. Ours was built in 2013 with roller rockers, rods, pistons, performance heads ,cam and valves. And like stated above, it took about 3 day of me not doing anything to it before it started to really get rock hard. The rest are hanging on nails in the trees and im tempted to go ahead and bait them up when i run tomorrow. Posts: 8133. Video and Picture highlights from the Duck Run that took place in the Sparkleberry Swamp off of the Santee River in the summer of 2009. Posts: 1913. I used Midwest supercub I have the heads p&p with oversize valves, cam, and a gutted new style stainless steel exhuast, and the carb rejetted. Then check the battery voltage, should be around 12-12. when it is idling, you will hear a distinct, "tick", sound from the engine, and it will idle down or run rough for a few seconds. Empty with just 5 gallons of gas (30 pounds), 5 2x2x8 boards (20 pounds), 1. And like stated above, it took about 3 day of me not doing anything to it before it started to really get rock hard. MMT Super Elite Member. Don't use a screw driver it will snap in half. MMT 1000 Club. seems too thick. MMT Addict. Nor is it a fund raiser for anything, but I have leftover Flyway hats I'll let folks have for $25 and a sticker if you want one. It came from the factory with 492932, but I purchased the 842921. That said, both a GD and a Ron Hill 9x6 prop have served me better- meaning I turn a few hundred more. 2. _____ Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. It connects to the Bay. Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:22 am: Kcpanages. I run it up on the bank in a sandy muddy mix every time i hunt. Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:48 pm Posts: 3161 Location: Alabama Re: Dularge. Re: Big Blade vs Hammer on Mud Buddy 5000. Re: go devil died today. 7 volts on the back side of the starter. 58 after tax. The Instagators are top performers for a 25HP engine. Put a crescent on the top nut against ur cavation plate and put a big crowbar between the blades on prop. I have GG. Here is the review for my new WC Custom rig. I have cam and heads but this should be a good starting point. Re: Kem 400. 016 Oil Filter (49065-2071, 49065-2078, 49065-7010)Copperhead 23 rpms. Predator 670 motor help needed. Duralux duck boat drab. Posts: 16915. All of them are different. MMT 1000 Club. Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:19 am. Heads, cam and carb will get you to 30 mph and 4200 rpms for about +-$2500. GatorTail Prop Selection. Bride~of~Chucky. Am not sure how to connect. Use it. I have heads, exhaust and carb and I run 27 mph with 2 men, dog and hunting load with my big blade prop. 2875 Views 5 Replies 3 Participants Last post by macdaddykeefer, Feb 7, 2013 Jump to Latest M. I've been hunting ducks for many years now but the last 5 years duck hunting has started to consume 90% of my fall hunting activities. Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:42 am: da go get'er. I always used a long narrow socket wrench wedged it through the middle of the u joint coming out of the back of the motor. You need to try before you buy! _____ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327. Re: Wetlander or Gatorglide. I though the bendix was centrifugally driven upwards?I've heard this motors should run non ethanol gas. Re: 2013 Sc Sparkleberry duck run! If you just cruise the run and don't bs around the stations you can be at graduation by 6. Reply Quote. PPF wood duck vs Backwater swomp lite glider . Both are great motors I got one and another guy that duck hunts with me has the PD. MMT Member. in the first duck commander video (made back in 1988) they used a long tail go devil. Re: 36 Prodrive clutch issue. was able to get 1050lb load on plane, max speed 21. Skybusting, or the art of trying to magically propel steel shot 100 yards into the air at a passing duck, is a sure-fire way to ruin your own chances, and everyone else’s chances, at actually killing a duck. The bearings are in the flared housings on the outdrive. Location: Old East Dallas, Texas. Re: 29 kawasaki fuel pump help!! Walbro GSL393 (40GPH @ 30ish PSI) Airtex E8228 (38GPH @ 30ish PSI) Walbro GSL391 (50GPH @ 30ish PSI) Some aftermarket pumps that meet the required specs as the pump for the FD791D (the 29hp kawa with fuel injection that you have uses a pump with 38 GPH at 26ish psi). . Look where the pushrod seats under the rocker arm. You loosen a bushing to relieve pressure when greasing the old style. Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:53 pm Posts: 7 Uncle J 18x54 with GTR XDLast visit was: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:54 pm: It is currently Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:54 pmPro: super easy to hide. I only have empty speeds so far, but I picked up about 3mph on top end. But if you have a non CDI motor, advance timing key. Same style clutch used on a lawnmower and they get several thousand. I currently have a big blade and can run 4600-4700 rpms with 2-3 people. Hope this helps someone out there. . Only thing similar to an airboat is the steering. Put the opposite bullet connection Male/female on the other end of the short section of wire. Almost all builders count the hunt deck as part of the length. some days it's awesome most days it's average. Duck Hunters fighting. Just run right into the cattails or roseau canes. Location: Belle Chasse, LA. _________________. I was going to go with the Fat Blade or Hammer and have Baggy work it. Location: Decatur, IL. On the 16x48 18mph sometimes 19 in deep water. It is a Briggs Vanguard on a Copperhead frame and will run like any other Briggs Vanguard (pretty much every GT, Prodrive, and Mudbuddy except the 25's and 27's is a Vanguard). Check the wires that feed them for loose connections. Be used mainly for small creeks and some tight timber. The extra 6” of width doesn’t feel like much till two people are on the front deck. duck commanders only use the best? i watched some of my old duck commander vhs tapes over the weekend and noticed a few things. Motor has always been serviced including oil, plugs and shaft has always been lubricated with new bushings every season. When they jump you can usually see a mark from where pushrod tried to run. Posts: 4. Runs about 20 with 3 people and a dog and close to 25 alone. GatorTail Prop Selection. if so you may find the. you are correct, grease and oil are 2 different things. The more you talk about hunting areas on the internet, the more crowded they are going to be. Location: Sumter, SC. 2) you can get a volt meter, and set it to check for 20v DC. Set to continuity and test the leads and you should see Open loop then when you pull the kill switch you should see something reading resistance. The info on the filter #842921I can find online specifically states it is for "big block" engines while some of the info on the net states the 492932S filter is for engines UP TO 26hp. I didn't know what to expect since I haven't seen any pictures of the install. Joined: Thu Nov 04. I have a 1600 alaskan and had to buy the 1800 series beavertail. I didn't want a skiff with lots of flare and rake, instead, I wanted a rig for busting through water lillies and getting in tight. Have a KS 1 switch. Posts: 68. _____ Back Yard Bullshit 1848 with Delta stage. You'll get plenty of results to read through with answers to your. Replace the nylons with bronze when they wear out. steps in hunt deck. If you have the older 3 wire system, then yes I know a very cheap place to replace it. Inherited a old go-devil with a vanguard engine . Also duck hunting these waters too. They are not insuring the Briggs engine, they are ensuring the Gator Tail motor assembly. You can remove the 4 screws out of the bottom of the football to reveal the switch wiring. Only weighs 165lbs. Skybusters: Magic Does Not Apply to Shotgun Physics. . DENNYEDWARDS. Reason for the aluminum props is so that they will be the weak point in the system due to chain drive being more unforgiving when encountering hard surfaces. Now i have a 35 GTR on the same boat and it runs 31 MPH with out any issues! Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:23 pm. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. It's by far the fastest prop I've ran on my boat. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. i get 29 mph at 4100 rpm,9 gal gas,two batts 1 person. Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:54 pm. 8 with 5 people and 2 icechest. With me my wife and the yeti Im getting 24 maybe 25. Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:53 pm: Wchauvin. I built a mud motor similar to a PPF only I added the Backwater Surface Tracer plate. The frame. 27 seems pretty high for a stock motor on a ribbed bottom boat. You should be getting 12. got 2 years on it, and they only thing I have noticed is that the shine has worn off. The propeller must run in a floating position. I've had it about a year and haven't duck hunted with it yet but have been fishing. My guess. Most everyone agrees that headwork is the biggest bang for the buck upfront.